Tiffany O'Donnell talks to Brit Barron, a sought-after speaker about the intersections of spirituality, race, gender, and sexuality. Along with her wife, Sami, she co-founded Other Dreamers, a creative agency designed to help others tell their stories authentically. She co-pastors New Abbey, a church in Pasadena, California, that seeks to challenge and redefine what "church" looks like today.
On today's episode, Brit talks about the importance of the words "help me understand" and the power of empathy in hard conversations.
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